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  Q&A with HERM EDWARDS - 10/23
Posted by: Steve Austin - 10-24-2008, 01:23 PM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (4)

Q: I know it?s been a while, but does it still feel weird looking at some of your former players in New York on film?

HERM EDWARDS: ?Some of them. There are still some guys left that we drafted. They?re a good football team. They went out in the free agent market and acquired a lot of veteran guys. Obviously, the quarterback helps them.?

Q: Speaking of quarterback, Tyler Thigpen is a guy who runs real well but you said before that you don?t want him taking a lot of hits. Does that cut down on how often he runs?

EDWARDS: ?Well, I just think he has to be selective when he runs. When he does run he needs to get down before he gets hit. He needs to learn how to slide.

?You don?t want him running a lot because if he?s down then we get to number four (quarterback) and then we?re getting close to five. I had five (quarterbacks) one year (in New York). It?s hard enough. He has to protect himself and we have to do a good job protecting him.?

Q: So you?ve been trying to work a little more on his passing and cutting back on the running?

EDWARDS: ?Yeah, but his instincts are to run and most young quarterbacks when they get in the league and they don?t see a guy open and they feel the clock ticking in their heads they take off and run. Most young guys do that and he?s a young quarterback and that?s his instincts. But you can?t run a whole lot in this league because eventually they catch up to you.?

Q: But is it fair to say that some of the bootlegs and draws you put in when Brodie was the quarterback all spring and summer he can run too?

EDWARDS: ?He can run them. He has mobility in the pocket and you don?t want to keep him in one place, especially against these guys who are a good defense. We?ve got to move him around in the pocket.?

Q: You said five quarterbacks. Do you mean in New York?

EDWARDS: ?Yeah. (He played five, started three quarterbacks in his last year with the Jets.)

Q: Is Donnie Edwards going to be ready for Sunday?

EDWARDS: ?Yeah, he?s going to be available. He practiced. He?ll play.?

Q: How much can he do?

EDWARDS: ?We?ll get him in there. We?ll rotate him and see where he?s at.?

Q: What about Dustin Colquitt?

EDWARDS: ?He?s still questionable. He?s the only guy.?

Q: How long before you have to make a decision there? Can you take it all the way up to game time?

EDWARDS: ?Oh yeah. We?ll just see where he?s at.

Q: How much more prepared is Tyler this Sunday than the game he played against the Falcons?

EDWARDS: ?A lot more. Plus, he?s played a game now that gives him a little bit of?and, you know, he ended the game pretty good. The second half he played pretty good. Now, he hasn?t played a whole lot since then. But he?s practiced the whole week with the first group which is good. He?s taken the majority of reps.?

Q: Obviously, Brodie Croyle is disappointed. What can you get out of him being around as far as meetings and so?

EDWARDS: ?He was here today. He came out. He?s got to get treatment before he gets going. He?ll be around here awhile until the swelling (in the knee) goes down.?

Q: You?ve got to feel for him.

EDWARDS: ?Big time. Big time. Yeah, you feel for a guy like that and I think all the players do too. He?s such a unique individual and we wanted the guy to be successful and he was playing decently in the game. He was nine for 10. He?s got a lot of talent but he?s got a long road to hoe and the conversation I had with him (I reminded him) he?s young. He is still a young player and he can overcome this. Hopefully, he?ll get back.?

Q: Do you hope that Tyler is the quarterback for the remainder of the year?

EDWARDS: ?That would be great. If he could do that ? and it?s obviously an evaluation process ? but if he goes in and plays well and we win some games it would be great. It would be good for us, good for him, good for everybody. That?s what we hope to happen but you have to understand where he?s at in his career. He?s like a rookie quarterback ? a kid that came out of Coastal Carolina a year ago who didn?t play a lot. This is his second start. (Jets) have a number four and we have a number four. It?s just two different number fours. You never know.?

Q: Have you talked to him about going against a Hall of Fame quarterback in Brett Favre? Everybody?s probably going to make the contrast.

EDWARDS: ?No, not yet. I?ll leave him alone. I?ll get him. We?ll have a nice little talk. He?ll be fine, he really will. I mean, the good thing is he?s started a game now. I think that will be out of his psyche. Now, he?s going to go play against (Favre). I?m going to tell him, ?you don?t have to be Brett Favre, ?cause there is only one them. Don?t try to be like that guy. Do what you do.? If he does that he?ll be fine.?

Q: Do you just want him to cut down on his mistakes? Is that what you expect?

EDWARDS: ?Yeah, the key to that position is don?t lose the game by making errors like fumbling the ball and throwing interceptions. You don?t have to make all the throws; you don?t have to try and win the game. Let the people around you help you do that. You don?t have to do it by yourself and that?s what all young guys want to do. They think, ?I have to make a play.? That?s where the patience comes in at quarterback. There will be some throws that he can make and that he has to make. There will be some that will be a little risky and you don?t need to take a lot of risks right now. We?re not that good for us to take risks at this point.

?We need to make some first downs. We need to score some touchdowns in the first quarter. We?ve scored six points in the first quarter. That?s not very good. So, we need to move the ball down the field and try to score in the first quarter so we can feel like we?re in the football game and not look at the second quarter and be down. We don?t want to play like that.?

Q: Is there one thing the defense can do that will lift the defensive team?

EDWARDS: ?More consistency, I think, we?re just not very consistent. That?s the problem. We?re not very consistent against the run. If we can just do that, that helps you. You don?t want those big explosion plays. That?s the whole key. If we can just avoid some of that we can gain some confidence. We do it in spurts but it seems like something always happens.?

Q: Do you still have to guard against the same thing happening to your two young running backs as you said you needed to be vigilant with the your young quarterback? They don?t need to score every time they get the ball.

EDWARDS: ?Yeah, they need to hold onto the ball first and then take what you get. These guys are hard to run on. Four yards is a good run. That?s good. Don?t try to get a home run every time. Try to stay away from negative yards and negative plays. You don?t want to be in second-and-12 all of sudden because you?re trying to make a big play. That?s bad and it puts you (in a long third) and there you go again, three downs and you?re out.?

Q: How is Rudy Niswanger and what are you getting out of him? How has he held up?

EDWARDS: ?He?s done pretty good against some pretty good guys. He?s going to have a load this week against Jenkins. He?s a pretty good player. Wow.

?But he?s done a good job for starting seven games. That?s not a lot but that?s a lot for us right now. He?s getting better. He?s smart but he?s learning to play the position and he doesn?t have any experience. That?s what all these young guys deal with. When these young guys are playing they?re playing generally against a guy who?s probably started 70 or 80 games. This guy has started seven. There?s a difference between the mentality of a guy who?s started 70 games and the guy who has started seven. There are a lot of positions on our team where the guy across has played a lot of football. This team hasn?t played a lot of football together. That?s a little bit of it too. Everyone is trying to find their way and that?s a little of the process of rebuilding. You go through that you hope it starts meshing together.?

Q: Larry Johnson de-activated against this week? Is he at the facility?

EDWARDS: ?Yes. No, he had some personal matters he had to handle, so he?s not here today.?


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  It was just instinct...
Posted by: Steve Austin - 10-21-2008, 11:35 AM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (2)

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  woo hoo! this team is pathetic!
Posted by: Steve Austin - 10-20-2008, 06:35 AM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (3)

title says it all

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  Official Mizzou Thread
Posted by: Unsmooth Moment - 10-15-2008, 11:53 AM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (121)

I figured we would eventually need a thread for this. Anyways


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  Chiefs to keep Gonzalez, other vets
Posted by: Steve Austin - 10-14-2008, 02:53 PM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (4)

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. ? Kansas City Chiefs president Carl Peterson gave every indication that his team will not be making a deal in the final hours before the NFL trade deadline of 4 p.m. ET, Tuesday.

"No, nada, nothing, zero," Peterson said, from the fall owners meetings, when asked if he had any possible deals for some of his high-priced veterans. TE Tony Gonzalez, RB Larry Johnson and CB Patrick Surtain have all been rumored to be on the trading block for the Chiefs, who are in rebuilding mode.

Several teams have expressed interest in Gonzalez, including the Bills, Giants and Eagles, according to published reports. However, none may be willing to meet Peterson's price tag of a third-round draft pick.

Peterson is among the executives who expressed doubt in making a deal happen.

"The phone is working," Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager Bruce Allen said. "But it's like always, there's a lot of talk and that's it."

"Same as most years," Indianapolis Colts president Bill Polian said.


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  Pacman suspended at least 4 games for violating conduct policy
Posted by: Steve Austin - 10-14-2008, 02:45 PM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (7)

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- Dallas Cowboys cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones has been suspended for at least four games for his most recent violation of the league's personal conduct policy, the NFL announced Tuesday.

The league said Jones was involved in an alcohol-related incident at a Dallas hotel on Oct. 8. Previous reports indicated Jones was involved in an alcohol-related scuffle with a bodyguard assigned to him by the Cowboys, and that hotel employees called the police.

Jones will not be paid during the suspension. Commissioner Roger Goodell will determine the ultimate length of Jones' suspension after Dallas' Week 11 game against Washington on Nov. 16.

In his letter to Jones informing the player of his latest suspension, Goodell said Jones' "disturbing pattern of behavior was clearly inconsistent with the conditions I set for your continued participation in the NFL."

League and law enforcement sources told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen that Goodell was expected to weigh whether Jones was in potential violation of his probation, in which he was prohibited from alcohol-related incidents.

When Goodell reinstated Jones from suspension before the regular season began, sources said one of the commissioner's conditions for Jones to remain an active player was that he remain in compliance with all aspects of his three-year probation from when he pleaded no contest last February to a felony in Fayette County, Ga.

Police reported that Jones might have been drinking when he was involved in the scuffle with a Cowboys-assigned bodyguard last week in Dallas. But Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has refuted many of the allegations and speculation. Even though police were called to the scene, no arrests were made or charges filed.

"We respect and support the decision of the commissioner," Jones said in a statement Tuesday. "I regret that this issue has brought negative attention to the Cowboys and the NFL.

"We move forward with a very clear knowledge as to what the process will be for a possible reinstatement. Adam is well aware of where he stands and what he has to do."

Jones began his time in Dallas under close scrutiny by the league after he was suspended for the entire 2007 season for multiple violations of the conduct policy while he was a member of the Tennessee Titans. The Cowboys traded for Jones before his suspension was over and he was reinstated by Goodell on Aug. 28.

Goodell also said his decision on whether Jones can return to play will be based on Jones' strict compliance with the NFL and the Cowboys in relation to treatment plans and evaluations by clinical experts.

Information from NFL writer Pat Yasinskas was used in this report.


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  Dungy: Manning had two surgeries on left knee
Posted by: Steve Austin - 10-14-2008, 11:36 AM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - No Replies

INDIANAPOLIS -- One surgery wasn't enough to fix Peyton Manning's left knee.

Colts coach Tony Dungy confirmed Monday, after nearly two months of deflecting questions, that Manning was operated on a second time before returning to the field in late August.

Dungy doesn't believe the second operation -- to fix an infected bursa sac -- was the reason the team had a sluggish start this season.

"I don't think it set him back, it was part of the rehab process," Dungy said Monday. "The time frame we were initially looking at was when he came back."

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported that the second procedure took place 17 days after the original surgery. Doctors were concerned about the fluid that had infected the bursa sac, which was removed in the original operation. So they tacked down all the skin around the knee to prevent that fluid leaking, which could have led to more infection. Manning needed 80 stitches during the second "tack-down" procedure.

Manning was not available in the locker room Monday, a day after the Colts routed the Baltimore Ravens 31-3, in what was easily his best game of the season. Manning typically does interviews only on Wednesdays and after games.

But he told the CBS broadcast team about the second surgery at a pregame meeting, prompting announcers Jim Nantz and Phil Simms to address the issue during Sunday's game.

Manning did not deny having a second surgery, although he had previously referred it to as irrelevant.

The two-time league MVP has said he is continuing to rehabilitate the knee that caused him to miss training camp and all five preseason games and kept him off the field until Aug. 26. Manning wasn't as precise with his passes until Sunday, when he threw for 271 yards and three touchdowns and had his highest quarterback rating of the season (134.7). Earlier this season, Manning acknowledged the knee also had forced him to make more pitches on running plays than straight handoffs.

After Sunday's game Manning indicated the loss of practice time may have affected his early-season play.

"I guess in some ways, this really is like the first week of the season for me," he said. "All I've ever known is taking every rep at every practice and playing in all the preseason games, so I did miss some time there and I've been working through that."

Mortensen reported that Manning had his knee drained during the offseason, believing the condition could managed that way. Fortunately, the infection set in early enough -- just after his Manning Passing Camp in July -- for the procedures to take place and allow him to return for the regular season. Had it come later, he would have missed start of season.

Manning hated missing training camp but he truly believes offseason on-the-field work during organized team activities is even more important than camp. The knee is "rock hard" and visibly larger than the other, but he has had constant therapy throughout the process, Mortensen reported.

While Manning's knee is no longer a major concern for the Colts, they are looking for reinforcements at running back.

Pro Bowler Joseph Addai left Sunday's game in the first quarter after hurting his hamstring, and Dungy said Monday he wasn't sure whether Addai would play this weekend at Green Bay. Third-string running back Mike Hart could miss much more time after injuring his right knee in the second quarter.

Indianapolis typically does not provide status reports until later in the week.

Dungy said Hart was scheduled to have an MRI on Monday and his prognosis is worse than Addai's, and that could leave the Colts with only one healthy back, former 1,000-yard runner Dominic Rhodes, who took every carry Sunday after Addai and Hart departed.

"It looks like it could be a while on Mike," Dungy said. "There's a good chance we will [sign another running back] and Chad Simpson would be the first guy we'd look at for sure."

Simpson is an undrafted rookie who has spent all season on the Colts' practice squad.

Had Rhodes been injured Sunday, Dungy said the Colts would have moved rookie tight end Tom Santi to running back.

And if they need another back, the Colts will likely seek a player such as Clifton Dawson, who has experience in the Colts' system.

"We're not necessarily looking for a more veteran guy, but we are looking for a guy who knows our system, knows our blocking assignments, knows our audibles," Dungy said.

The Colts could also get two starters back Wednesday. Left guard Ryan Lilja and outside linebacker Tyjuan Hagler have both been on the physically unable to perform list since training camp opened in late July. The Colts now have three weeks to activate Lilja and Hagler or they will miss the rest of the season, and Dungy believes both could start practicing this week.

Hagler said doctors cleared him to practice a couple weeks ago and he's eager to get on the field, though he doesn't know how long it will take to crack the starting lineup.

"I'm in shape, but game shape and conditioning shape are two different things," Hagler said. "But that's how you get into game shape, you continue to play in games, so we'll see."

ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen and The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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  Chiefs | L. Johnson to face assault charge
Posted by: Steve Austin - 10-14-2008, 11:34 AM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (23)

[url=""][/url] reports [url=""]Kansas City Chiefs[/url] RB [url=""]Larry Johnson[/url] will answer a charge of simple assault December in Kansas City, according to the [url=""]Kansas City Star[/url]. A 26-year-old woman accused Johnson of pushing her on the side of the head at a nightclub Feb. 24, 2008. Johnson's lawyer, Kevin E.J. Regan, said that his client will be vindicated at trial. Regan claimed that the woman did not inform management, security officers or police at the club of the incident but waited 11 hours to report the alleged assault. Johnson could be sentenced to six months in jail and a $500 fine if convicted.


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  Raiders | Team will look to scale back on Russell
Posted by: Steve Austin - 10-14-2008, 11:33 AM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (6)

Jerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports Oakland Raiders head coach Tom Cable said he will look to focus on the strengths of QB JaMarcus Russell instead of trying to empty the playbook. "We certainly put him in a lot of situations, moving him around, move the pocket, three steps, five-, seven-steps and play-action, and really kind of ran the gamut with him," Cable said. "And I think we really found out a lot about where he is. And it's obvious he's still in a stage of development. It's obvious maybe he can't handle that much. But it doesn't change the fact that we need to continue to throw the football and continue to find ways to get completions and throw the ball down the field."

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  Chiefs | Team plans to honor Gonzalez Week 7
Posted by: Steve Austin - 10-14-2008, 11:31 AM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (21)

Randy Covitz, of The Kansas City Star, reports the Kansas City Chiefs plan to honor TE Tony Gonzalez in a pre-game ceremony Week 7 in recognition of his setting the NFL record for most career receiving yards by a tight end. Gonzalez, according to the team, "will be singled out as the team is introduced to all those in attendance."

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